Secondary Combustion Burner 3.5"
4.75 / 5.0
28 reviewsCompatible with large size stainless steel Winnerwell stoves with 3.5” diameter pipes, the Secondary Combustion Burner generates a cleaner and more efficient burn, resulting in more heat in your tent or shelter and a reduction in smoke and sparks expelled from through the flue. The top of the Secondary Combustion Burner also functions as an additional cooktop, expanding the cooking utility of your Winnerwell Stove.
SPECS
- Compatible with Large size stainless steel Winnerwell stoves with 3.5” diameter pipes
- Made with 304 Stainless Steel
- Dimensions: 14.2" x 10.2" x 12.3"
- Weight: 9.3 lbs
FEATURES
OPERATING TIPS
INSTALLATION GUIDELINES
SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS
BUNDLE INCLUDES
See It in Action
Too early to tell. Waiting for the September 100F temps in Illinois to go down for winter camping.
Instructions say to leave the air vent at the front door of the stove all the way open. I RARELY leave the front vent wide open. After less than a minute after lighting the fire, I close down the vent to its smallest setting and create a “wind” at the vent to get the chimney to DRAW air properly and get the fire going better.
I hope this device does not smoke-up my tent!! I will provide an update in October when I am in Minnesota.
Used the secondary combustion burner for the 1st time last night. Truly made a difference in the amount of smoke that escaped our of the chimney. Also great aesthetics with the glowing pine trees. Also made use of the extra cooking space.
It appears to be quality built. I did a first burn in my new stove outside and had it installed. It worked great it will be a nice addition to my skyliner.
Thanks
Product is very efficient, well built and perfect addition to the nomad stove
The product is well built and aesthetically pleasing. I have not put it together with my stove yet. I am wondering if the use of the secondary combustion burner precludes the use of the oven and water heater, or can all three components be assembled together and still function fully. Please advise; thank you! Dan
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- 3 stars: 2 (7%)
- 2 stars: 1 (4%)
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Too early to tell. Waiting for the September 100F temps in Illinois to go down for winter camping.
Instructions say to leave the air vent at the front door of the stove all the way open. I RARELY leave the front vent wide open. After less than a minute after lighting the fire, I close down the vent to its smallest setting and create a “wind” at the vent to get the chimney to DRAW air properly and get the fire going better.
I hope this device does not smoke-up my tent!! I will provide an update in October when I am in Minnesota.
Used the secondary combustion burner for the 1st time last night. Truly made a difference in the amount of smoke that escaped our of the chimney. Also great aesthetics with the glowing pine trees. Also made use of the extra cooking space.
It appears to be quality built. I did a first burn in my new stove outside and had it installed. It worked great it will be a nice addition to my skyliner.
Thanks
Product is very efficient, well built and perfect addition to the nomad stove
The product is well built and aesthetically pleasing. I have not put it together with my stove yet. I am wondering if the use of the secondary combustion burner precludes the use of the oven and water heater, or can all three components be assembled together and still function fully. Please advise; thank you! Dan
This secondary burn chamber worked out perfect I can’t believe how well it works. They did a very good job building this. This is built, tough and robust. There’s nothing cheesy about this burn chamber.
This secondary combustion camber is a unit! Larger than I anticipated and really cranks up the heat in my 13 ft bell tent. Provides additional cooktop / warming space and cool design as well 👍👍
Been looking for something to increase the stoves efficiency, so when I saw these I had to have it. Test burn shows it going to work great. Stove pipe usually gets red hot especially the bottom sections, but not with the secondary burner. Definitely putting out more heat than just the stove. Build quality is what you would expect from winterwell, excellent! Love the little trees. Definitely worth the money. Can't wait to get the tent up this weekend and camp out with the kids. It's definitely going to keep the tent warmer when it's burning low at night. Once the stove is burning well and you turn the air on you can hear it burn and it gets hotter than the stove top so you could definitely cook on it too.
First fire, I never did get it to get hot. Second I got it to get over 400 degrees. Third fire I was working to keep the low glow from becoming a bright glow. It was 28 outside and I got the tent up to 90 degrees. I was approaching sauna temp.
Still learning, main step is cleaning out the ashes to keep good air flow.
When it working you can hear a low roar in the chamber. As a recovering engineer, that’s 😎!
Many times I thought it was about to take off and I set a water kettle on it and the temp dropped fast.
I love it. Almost as much as the in line stove. Got go I have fresh bread coming out. Camp bread, warms the soul.
I put a temp meter on it to try to gauge secondary "ignition". My general impression is that it works best with it open only 1/4 to 1/3. Any more and it lights up, then just starts to dilute the draft. The most effective method IMO is to have a small fire on full (main air control) with the secondary open 1/3. This would produce massive heat for 1/2 to 1 hour. For a long burn setup, I'd get the stove very hot, load, wait 10 minutes, then shut down the main to 1/3 & leave the secondary at 1/4. This seemed to keep the smoke clear & I had great temperatures for the first 1/3 - 2/3 of the burn load. Even if it does not light off, this works as a good heat-exchanger. The only downside with this device is that when you open the secondary air control, it will dilute the draft - so wait until it is hot before you start opening it.
First of all the design does not allow the use of large water tank. You can still put it on top of it but it's not secure at the bottom while using the combustion burner. If you are using a 360 view stove, you can't put large water tank on the side either cuz of the glass, nor there ain't any hooks on the back of the stove for water tank.. Also the secondary burner is not a take apart model to clean.
I've been fiddling with this burner for a while, and now I have a warped stove. Winnerwell did offer to take the secondary back, so kudos to them. The main problem is you have to get the stove very hot for the secondary to take off. Once running, it isn't easy to dial back the main stove and keep the secondary burning. It does work as a heat exchanger, so I'm hesitant to return it for that reason.
This thing is awesome. I noticed a huge difference with it installed. A lot more heat and a lot less wood to generate it, it's definitely maxing out the efficiency of the stove. Once the whole system is up to temperature it runs great with not much smoke exiting out the pipe. Flue runs pretty cool as well. And all that extra cooking surface! I put the large water tank on top of the burner and it boils water fast, easy on/off as well. Thank you for such great products.
Keeps a lot of the heat inside the tent. Adds more surface area for a percolator or tea pot
My brother owns a 16 ft regatta bell tent and it is great tent and very spacious. We did notice however that our winnerwell nomad large stove took a little while and some wood to get it warm enough to really stay in the tent and not have to keep a light jacket on or keepadding wood. This addition of the combustion chamber really made a difference because it’s another large piece of steel that throws off a lot of heat. It is also a great secondary cooking surface when you want to eat and drink hot things at the same time. We added some weight to the bottom of the stove to help make sure it didn’t have a tipping hazard. When it gets red hot it’s also cool to look at along with the view version of the nomad. Top shelf quality as expected from winnerwell. If you have a larger tent this might be just what your looking for for the added heat, cooking, and wood consumption which really comes in handy not to have to wake up every hour to stoke the fire on cold upstate NY nights. It’s a home run for us.
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Received my secondary combustion burner recently after waiting several months for them to be back in stock. Definitely worth the wait. Definitely worth the money as well. It works excellent. Biggest thing I noticed was having a lot less spark or embers from the stove pipe or ash. Definitely a cleaner burn. You could really see it with half as much smoke. Hard to say yet how much extra heat it will help produce inside tent since I only burned it on my back patio, but you could feel the heat definitely radiating off the burner. It was around 15°f at the time. So far I am really pleased. Can't wait to try it in the tent camping hopefully soon.
I have not had a chance to use the secondary burner unit yet but here are my initial observations. The burner is solidly constructed and dare I say artfully designed with impeccable welding. This will last for decades and will be handed down to my children. I will post a follow up review after I have used it several times.
The device increases the heat inside the tent plus it enables me to set the stove out further from the wall when necessary. I like the idea of burning the smoke also once the stove has heated up to proper temperature. I would definitely recommend the Secondary Combustion Burner.
This heat exchanger is a high quality unit which will give a lifetime of service and a cleaner burn. More heat and more cooking surface.
The secondary combustion burner gets very hot, as hot or more so that the cooking surface. It must be reclaiming a lot of heat that would otherwise go up the flue. I didn't get a lot of measurements, but it seems that the flue is also cooler.
Got an sir flow control to cut down just above the water boiler,. I don’t know if this will work, but trying anyway. The secondary burner appears easy to clean when removed as one can scrub it out with a brush. The through pipes for additional heating are nice. Maybe put the water boiler on top if I can’t get secondary combustion with an extension
After testing it more it appears that the correct length of the airflow controller is about 5 3/4" for a large nomad stove. Presumably the other models are similar since the hole placement has been adjusted for the different stove's. With a modified air controller the stove and burn chamber both work as intended. I use a stove thermometer to manage the optimal fire level. Kept me warm in low 20's and moderate wind.
Will need a half pipe length airflow controller to work with classic jack due to placement of stove jack. It adds about 1/2 pipe length to the internal stove pipe. I understand they are working on this. Will just need to offer 1/2 length airflow controller. It does work in other wall tents just fine. It appears well made.
The Secondary Combustion Burner adds additional cooking space and I love it!
It Does exactly what it supposed to do!
I have the Woodlander double view medium stove.. it's nice but... as I use it, uses lots of wood n fast... not economical, at all... I did call a few times asking about a secondary burn unit...
now they tantalize us with only one size? c'mon.. make them for all your stoves.. it's the Big thing thats missing to make the stoves the best! make the wood last longer and with more heat and a cleaner burn.... please do it!
I have the medium woodlander double view.... lots of heat escapes through the pipe, not at all economical...now they come out with this? what about the other stoves... it's a must.. wood burns way to fast and creosote builds up fast also...c'mon guy's it's the Big thing thats missing from this nice stove...make the secondary burner for all stoves....btw... is there a way to disassemble it? to clean it out? thank you
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